Best calender year ever?

[JD]

Will 2007 be the best calander year for snowfall on Mansfield. I would have to say considering what late Jan thru mid April, and Oct, Nov, Dec, have been for us here on Mansi, it's on track for the most snow in a calender year.
maybe 7 really is a lucky number.

 

[billski]

Let the numbers talk. Stake is now at 54". In an average year the stake peaks at 73" in mid-march.

 

[Greg]

Will 2007 be the best calander year for snowfall on Mansfield. I would have to say considering what late Jan thru mid April, and Oct, Nov, Dec, have been for us here on Mansi, it's on track for the most snow in a calender year.
maybe 7 really is a lucky number.

Very keen and interesting observation. I just hope it continues into 08.

 

[jaywbigred]

Let the numbers talk. Stake is now at 54". In an average year the stake peaks at 73" in mid-march.

That would be March '08 no? I think the original point of the thread was that January 2007 - December 2007 has been a banner calendar year...

...as opposed to the traditional November-May ski year that we are all so used to thinking of in terms of "this year's snow."

 

[billski]

That would be March '08 no? I think the original point of the thread was that January 2007 - December 2007 has been a banner calendar year...

...as opposed to the traditional November-May ski year that we are all so used to thinking of in terms of "this year's snow."

Hmm. I don't see what value a calendar year statistic has unless you are just trying to set another type of record.

 

[jaywbigred]

Hmm. I don't see what value a calendar year statistic has unless you are just trying to set another type of record.

I'd agree with that certainly. I didn't start the post ;-)

 

[jaywbigred]

start the post ;-)

Errr the thread, I mean. My eyes are burning from too much computer time.

 

[JD]

Just that 2007 has been absolutely epic.

 

[riverc0il]

Hmm. I don't see what value a calendar year statistic has unless you are just trying to set another type of record.

What is the value of a ski season year either? Both are just as arbitrary when you think about it excepting that one is completely linear and the other is not. Ski season year is just another type of record too.

I would say that the 2007 calendar year would be and could be hard to beat. Only January was not epic but it certainly was not terrible. January was mostly faulted due to low base depth and most areas being a month behind. Late March saw warming and rain and would have been an early end to the season if not for the April dumps which were just amazing. Mount Washington skiing in April, May, and June was sensational (unfortunately, I was out with an injury and didn't get to Washington until July for desperation turns). October was pretty weak but we have had a sold month and a half that could rival almost any other early season excepting the October storms of the last three years that did not happen this year.

2007 was extremely respectable as a skiing calendar year.

 

[billski]

What is the value of a ski season year either? Both are just as arbitrary when you think about it excepting that one is completely linear and the other is not. Ski season year is just another type of record too.

2007 was extremely respectable as a skiing calendar year.

The diff here is that one measure is generally in use, the other is not. Most resorts base their investments and their financial success on the classic measure. I've watched dozens of resorts fail due to a "bad season" as they measure it. While I don't invest in the industry, I do want to see winter sports enterprises prosper. Why do I care? Because a resorts ability to survive impacts my personal ski experience. Consequentially, the measurement is not as arbitrary as it may first appear.

When I look at new measures, I always ask, "what value does the new metric create?" If it's just another measure that does not impart new knowledge or insight, it becomes yet another statistic.

 

[riverc0il]

Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't mean it lacks value The longer I do this activity the more the line between the off season and the in season blur. Even though I do not ski for about four months the seasons are starting to square up with each other. I still don't "feel" like I am in season at this point.... not like I used to. Every time I go out, even though I am up to my 13th day, I still get a sureal feeling like it is my first day all over again.

I don't measure seasons the way resorts do. I suspect neither does JD or a lot of other people. I measure quality days. I got a lot of them in 2007. A bad season can still have some epic days. I think most people didn't like 2005-2006 but that was a banner year for me. Probably I can view it that way because I could not ski for the three months that sucked because of a broken elbow. So seasonal prospectives can vary greatly. I don't think this thread was about measuring ski area success but rather personal satisfaction with a certain range of days.

 

[cbcbd]

Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't mean it lacks value The longer I do this activity the more the line between the off season and the in season blur. Even though I do not ski for about four months the seasons are starting to square up with each other. I still don't "feel" like I am in season at this point.... not like I used to. Every time I go out, even though I am up to my 13th day, I still get a sureal feeling like it is my first day all over again.

I don't measure seasons the way resorts do. I suspect neither does JD or a lot of other people. I measure quality days. I got a lot of them in 2007. A bad season can still have some epic days. I think most people didn't like 2005-2006 but that was a banner year for me. Probably I can view it that way because I could not ski for the three months that sucked because of a broken elbow. So seasonal prospectives can vary greatly. I don't think this thread was about measuring ski area success but rather personal satisfaction with a certain range of days.

...and that, my friends, is The Snow Way (cue Baker Street)