Sunday River Lifts

[machski]

Totally separate entity doing all the construction.

So you're telling me it's set up like Killington 's planned base village. Come on, sure a developer is doing the builds but do you honestly think Boyne isn't pulling in $$$ off this? Of course they are.

 

[bigbob]

So you're telling me it's set up like Killington 's planned base village. Come on, sure a developer is doing the builds but do you honestly think Boyne isn't pulling in $$$ off this? Of course they are.

Boyne made their money when they sold the land. There may be fine print about a percentage of sales, but not privey to the details.

 

[machski]

Boyne made their money when they sold the land. There may be fine print about a percentage of sales, but not privey to the details.

Well something is still allowing $$ to flow on the resort side, more than SR and SL anyway this year.

 

[bigbob]

Well something is still allowing $$ to flow on the resort side, more than SR and SL anyway this year.

Loon makes money for Boyne. Invest where you get a return.

 

[machski]

Loon makes money for Boyne. Invest where you get a return.

SR supposedly does as well. At least it did though the flood insurance issue obviously kills that to a decent extent at present.

 

[machski]

Now that we are into March, time to start talking spring plans. Unfortunately, the news at SR is not good. All signs are pointing to a super early close, Easter Sunday is likely the last day of the season. Something big is going on, Boyne has had them on a shoestring and now a truncated season to boot. Min you, Loon still going to 4/19 and SL to 4/26. This goes beyond the loss out at Big Sky this year with the HOA suit. Seems likely SR is paying for the floods it suffered and no insurance payout yet with Boyne and the underwritter in court over coverage applicability.

This is bad. Maybe ASC death throw days bad. If they do close this early, this will erode patron confidence and have ripple effects for years to come. Seriously doubt they will be selling any MH lots once this verifies. I wouldn't spend up to a Million on land attached to a listing resort.

 

[chuckstah]

Now that we are into March, time to start talking spring plans. Unfortunately, the news at SR is not good. All signs are pointing to a super early close, Easter Sunday is likely the last day of the season. Something big is going on, Boyne has had them on a shoestring and now a truncated season to boot. Min you, Loon still going to 4/19 and SL to 4/26. This goes beyond the loss out at Big Sky this year with the HOA suit. Seems likely SR is paying for the floods it suffered and no insurance payout yet with Boyne and the underwritter in court over coverage applicability.

This is bad. Maybe ASC death throw days bad. If they do close this early, this will erode patron confidence and have ripple effects for years to come. Seriously doubt they will be selling any MH lots once this verifies. I wouldn't
spend up to a Million on land attached to a listing resort.

My source thinks a couple of weekends max after Easter, but said nothing is official yet.

 

[machski]

My source thinks a couple of weekends max after Easter, but said nothing is official yet.

By then too late to decide that. People see the lack of commitment and make alternate plans. Both Loon and SL are running through April like normal. If SR management cannot commit yet, just throw in the towel. But this will hurt their business moving forward if they close Easter Sunday.

 

[chuckstah]

By then too late to decide that. People see the lack of commitment and make alternate plans. Both Loon and SL are running through April like normal. If SR management cannot commit yet, just throw in the towel. But this will hurt their business moving forward if they close Easter Sunday.

Definitely. I go up for a few spring skiing days every April. If they bail out early this year I'll just go to Stowe and not buy a ticket pack going forward.

 

[2Planker]

Way more snow in RI and MetroBoston

 

[sull1102]

Rumors abound in the Facebook SR groups, looks like Jordan and weekends only April 5th to 19th. As someone who was on Indy and stuck between going Ikon for next year or getting the Loon SR SL Spring Pass and another year of Indy, this sucks. I was about to book first week of April at the Jordan but now this pushes me back to Ikon and Sugarbush for spring.

 

[Edd]

Rumors abound in the Facebook SR groups, looks like Jordan and weekends only April 5th to 19th. As someone who was on Indy and stuck between going Ikon for next year or getting the Loon SR SL Spring Pass and another year of Indy, this sucks. I was about to book first week of April at the Jordan but now this pushes me back to Ikon and Sugarbush for spring.

I understand bottom lines and all, but I agree that sucks.

 

[machski]

I understand bottom lines and all, but I agree that sucks.

Yeah, Boyne very short-sighted this year. Will hurt them going forward.

 

[Newpylong]

What is their insistence on bringing people to the ass end of the earth, with minimal base facilities and less parking?

The extra couple hundred feet is not going to affect snow pack in a meaningful way.

 

[Edd]

The extra couple hundred feet is not going to affect snow pack in a meaningful way.

Sorry, I'm not following what this means.

 

[Newpylong]

Elevation advantage of Jordan.

 

[kbroderick]

Elevation advantage of Jordan.

Anecdotally, I think it does make a difference. The number of times I've seen liquid precipitation on the way up there that turned to snow by the time I got past the bottom of the lift is nontrivial, and the melt rate when it's borderline spring temps certainly seems different.

I'd say that the bottom of Barker turning into a giant puddle every spring doesn't help, but the drainage isn't great at Jordan either.

 

[Edd]

Elevation advantage of Jordan.

How's that related to closing Jordan on weekdays?

edit: Never mind, now I get it.

 

[sull1102]

He’s saying that Barker offers a better late season experience, and he doesn’t understand why they have people drive to the farthest away base area.

 

[Edd]

He’s saying that Barker offers a better late season experience, and he doesn’t understand why they have people drive to the farthest away base area.

Ah ****, I had that backwards, thank you